Vampire: the Eternal Struggle - opsta diskusija

Post by **Megabaja** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 1:58 am

templar radi to isto za sabat vampire... pritom !nos imaju... pa ti ustvari nisi ni pogledao sta sam ti dao u linku. zar ne?

Post by **Hypodermic** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 9:50 am

Pogldao sam, ali necu da pozamljujem karte od drugih - hocu sa onim sto ja imam da sklopim deck. A ne verujem da stvari koje mi trebaju imaju drugi ljudi na trade

Resurrection · Post by **Resurrection** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 11:21 am

Hypodermic wrote:...
Side note - ako rick nabavi neke stare edicije boostera ili startera ja ih kupujem oberucke Ako ih hrvatiimaju u ponudi, a neko ide na essekon, rado cu pazariti nesto.

Inside note: Rik to nikad nece nabaviti sem ako mu eksplicitno ne kazes a ni onda nece jer ne moze da nabavi stare stvari.
Jednom je vec bio mlad i naivan i narucio ono sto mu nisam rekao i to je posle vratio u Inglesku jer niko nije hteo da kupi.

Pogldao sam, ali necu da pozamljujem karte od drugih - hocu sa onim sto ja imam da sklopim deck. A ne verujem da stvari koje mi trebaju imaju drugi ljudi na trade

Nije da nisi igrao sa mojim kucicima i obfuscate na turniru

Izmedj ostalog imam taj Tiganj za trejd.
I Kucice cu da ti trejdujem.

A sta tebi uopste treba?
Imas tamo lepo temu za trejd pa stavi sta i kako.

Post by **Hypodermic** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 2:02 pm

Dzukce sam trejdovao, to definitivno hocu. A sa rickom cu da vidim sledeci put kad ide porudzbina, ako ima na lageru boks starih startera iz neke edicije da ih naruci za mene (Samo prvo da vidim koja je edicija :D)

KRC topic bi zaista mogao da se osvezi :D

Dawngreeter · Post by **Dawngreeter** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 9:15 am

Za vas klosare koji ste mi juce napravili raid VtES karata - jutros sam naleteo na jos pet-sest starter kutija punih kojekakvih karata. Uvalicu vam to na primer na sledecem Scion session-u ili tako nesto.

Post by **Hypodermic** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 9:44 am

Ostavi nesto i za mene, lepo bi mi doslo par trapova i animalism karata :D

Resurrection · Post by **Resurrection** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 3:11 pm

@Griter:
Nisam hteo da te zovem na mob ali sam pretpostavio da fali negde oko 350 karata jer si kupio celu kutiju bustera a nije bilo puno stvari iz 3ED.

@Boca:
Za sada sm osamo Sutic, Krle i Ja uzeli po 20ak karata a tebi smo ostavili sve sto ima veze sa Nosferatorima.

Plan je za sada sledeci:
1. Rekonstruisati 3ED startere koji ce da stoje u Crnom Zmaju a potom kod Rika za ljude koji svrnu da igraju da mogu da probaju.
2. Za Gritrea napraviti jedan Aching beauty Toreador dek, ako nam se ikad vrati ili za turnir pokoji, za pocetak od njegovih karata i sve sto nedostaje kupiti sa neta tj. prvo traziti od onih koji nesto hoce da uzmu iz DG kolekcije.
3. Nije odredje nacin naknade za uzete karte ali pozeljno je da date minimum isto toliko karata ali budite siroke ruke jer sve sto se ne rascereci stoji za nubse ove i buduce.

Post by **Hypodermic** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 3:32 pm

pa ne igrma ja smao sa nosferatuima znas, trebaju mi i stvari za tremere deck (tipa jos koji rutors hand) i stvari za ventrue (freak drive npr?)

Resurrection · Post by **Resurrection** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 4:26 pm

Za sad za Griterov dek fali:

1x Alexandra
1x Madame Guil
1x Antoinette, She Who Watches
1x Michael Luther
1x Emerson Wilkershire

3x Entrancement
2x Change of Target
5x Crocodile's Tongue
2x Majesty
3x Aching Beauty
4x Parity Shift
5x Second Tradition: Domain

Dawngreeter · Post by **Dawngreeter** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 6:02 pm

Medju kartama koje su ostale kod mene, nasao sam 5x Domain (u stvari cak 7x al' dobro) i jedan Entrancement. Crocodile's Tongue bih desnu ruku dao da sam imao k'o djubreta al' ko zna od cega sam se to istripovao.

Inace, kad vec pricamo o kartama a glupo mi je da otvaram drugu temu ako nema interesovanja, u procesu sam sastavljanja cetri kudikamo fina EVE deck-a (posto imam samo Exiled karte, u pitanju su cetri glavne priatske frakcije iz te ekspanzije). Ako nekada neko nekako bude bio zainteresovan da vidi kako ide ta igra, mogu poneti deck za sebe i protivnika gdegod.

Post by **Hypodermic** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 6:31 pm

MIslim da imam madammes guill, i imam majesty to spare dva komada. Na zalost, i ja koristim second tradition (i imam ih samo 6 komada) tako da to nije za spare.. barem dok ne kupim jos jedan alastor starter ako ga nadjem

Post by **Megabaja** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 7:32 pm

boco jel ono bese etrius ima neke veze sa tremerima? ima neki gem of etrius ili tako nesto u gomili karata, jel ti treba to?

Post by **Hypodermic** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 8:13 pm

Etritus je tremere inner circle, nije mi u decku ali je tremera 11tica. Sta radi gem? (Gledam na netu upravo) Pa pazi nije losa karta ali moze da je koristi svako, ne samo tremere. Mada to znaci da ako stavim doticni gem na nekog vampira jedino ako isti bude sprzen onda mogu da uvedem drugog... iz opste prakse znamo da vampire obicno saljes samo u torpor sem ako nemas neku direktnu korist od przenja. Doduse radi i kada ti je vampir diablerizovan...

Na sajtu ne pise cena uvodjenja u igru. Ako nema cenu.. ono kao sto da ne. Sta trazis za kartu?

Post by **Megabaja** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 8:23 pm

ccc... pa jel ti ovi domaini koje trazimo bas toliko trebaju?

Post by **Hypodermic** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 8:55 pm

Pa da, jer su mi u tremere deck-u jer imam princeva i justicara u tom decku samo tako. Ta cuda daju i untap i +2 intercept. Nemoguce da ih imam samo ja. Mozda bih mogao 2 da dam i da ostanem sa 4, ali nema sanse svih 5 ja da obezbedim.

Resurrection · Post by **Resurrection** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 9:00 pm

@ Sutic:
Rece Griter u kojem postu iznad da je nasao 2nd tradition domain u dovoljnim kolicinama.

Mislim da se sve da istrejdati sa lokalcima sem Parity Shift i Aching beauty kojih jedostavno nema.

Post by **Hypodermic** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 9:13 pm

posto sma poceo lagano da se gubim u tome sta imam od karata, donecu ih sve kad se vidimo pa da profiltriramo cega sve tu ima, ok? Mozda cak i imam Aching beauty jedan ili dva, a da nisma ni svestan toga.

Resurrection · Post by **Resurrection** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 5:08 pm

Objavljeno mesto odrzavanja sledeceg VtES Evropskog prvenstva.

V:TES Championship Announcement - Next year's European Championship for Vampire: The Eternal Struggle is tentatively scheduled for mid-September and the chosen host city will be Prague.

http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/index.ph ... icleid=862

European Championship 2008

Location: Prague, The Czech Republic, Central Europe, southeast of Germany
Area: 78 866 sq. km
Bordering Countries: Austria 362km, Germany 646km, Poland 658km, Slovakia 215km
Population: 10,241,138 (July 2005 est.)
Location: In the centre of Czech Republic
International Airport: Yes
Size: 496 square km
Population: 1,21 million inhabitants
Official language: Czech
(English speaking approx. 60% of pop. J)
Currency: Czech crown - Czech symbol "Kc",
international symbol "CZK"
1 Kc = 100 helers, Czech symbol "h"
Coins: 50h and 1, 2, 5, 10, 20, 50 Kc
Banknotes: 20, 50, 100, 200, 500, 1000, 2000, 5000 Kc
Exchange rates: approx. 1 EUR = 29 CZK, 1 USD = 24 CZK
Time zone: Central European time - GMT+1,
Daylight savings time - GMT+2
Climate: Mild continental climate
Electrical Voltage: Voltage 230 V - 50/60 Hz

Transportation in Prague:
Tram, bus, car, metro, taxi. The easiest way to get around is by metro, which has 3 lines. For shorter distances transport by tram is recommended. Visitors using taxis are advised to agree on fares in advance, approx. price is 1 EUR/km. The fare from Prague International
Airport to the center costs approx. 20 EUR. Visitors preferring public
transport can get from the airport close to the center and metro and trams
by bus n. 119. Prague is a relatively safe city; tourists are advised to take
standard precautions when visiting.

Accommodation:
1 person from 10 EUR per night
http://www.ubytovani.cz/index.php?src=h ... untry_id=1
We will also attempt to secure affordable (floor mattress) accommodation
for students costing less then 3 EUR per night.

Expected EC 2008 site:

TBD. The Venue be to selected will meet the following
requirements:

1. Close proximity to public transport (Metro).
2. Accommodation within walking distance of the venue.
3. Restaurants within walking distance of the venue.

Expected attendance:
200 - 300 participants

Programme:
Tiered format will be used for the EC Championship 2008.

1st day:
8:00 - 22:00 Registration
All day: Sightseeing with our "V:tES Guides"
From 18:00 Welcome Party

2nd day:
8:00 - 11:00 Registration EQ and Special Event 1
11:00 - 20:00 Special Event 1
12:00 - 21:00 Last Chance European Qualifier Prague 2008
21:00 Announcement of results

3rd day
8:00 - 10:00 Registration Special Event 2
10:00 - 19:00 Special Event 2
11:00 - 20:00 EC Prague 2008 Day 1
21:00 Announcement of results

4th day
8:00 - 10:00 Registration Special Event 3
10:00 - 19:00 Special Event 3
11:00 - 20:00 EC Prague 2008 Day 2
21:00 Announcement of results and official closing ceremony

Organizers:

Karel Zitny, NC Czech Republic (event organization & support)
Karol Magda, Former Prince of Prague (event gameplay & head judge)
Ondrej Kalat, Prince of Prague (event organization & judge)

Resurrection · Post by **Resurrection** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 9:10 am

VtES: Deck construction clinic
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=g4N-i02ptnw

:D

Resurrection · Post by **Resurrection** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 11:01 pm

Malo istorije VtES-a:

Verzija Fame iz Jyhad :D
Think of the posibilities

Post by **Hypodermic** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 7:42 pm

Kako god da se okrene meni subota bude skoro uvek bukirana

Ili ispadne posao, ili ispadnu porodicne obaveze. Ove nedelje mi se *valjda* sestra seli i *valjda* drzim sesn. Ako se sestra ne zeli i ako sesn bude uvece, ja sam tu od 16.
Ko za inat svaki radni dan do kraja meseca sam slobodan...

Resurrection · Post by **Resurrection** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 11:29 am

Kazi koji dan ti odgovara u toku nedelje pa cu nesto da organizujem ako mogu.

Meni je ispit tek 17 tako da, manje vise, imam vremena za zajebanciju.

I Crni Zmaj radi samo do 20h radnim danima tako da uzmi i to u obzir.

Post by **Hypodermic** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 12:24 pm

Pa odgovara mi bilo koji dan od 15 do 19 sigurno (neki put i do 20, zavisi od treninga). Tako da mozemo da igramo evo u cetvrtak ako ima zainteresovanih.

Resurrection · Post by **Resurrection** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 9:39 pm

Za sad ti, Ivan i ja.
Upravo cimam ljude da mi vele dal' mogu.

EDIT: i Krle

Resurrection · Post by **Resurrection** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 3:05 pm

Kakvi ste za prednovogodisnji turnir 29og ili 30og Decembra?
(da, konacno mozemo da napravimo turnir u subotu - jej!)

Igracemo u Rikovim novootvorenim prostorijama i moj predlog je da se igra po novim turnrskim pravilima koja zvanicno vaze od 1.1.2008.

Ako nas ima dovoljno sve ostalo se lako dogovorimo.

Post by **Hypodermic** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 3:49 pm

Ja pravim turnir u w40k u subotu 29og. Bre, citaj malo sta se dogadja na forumu, nikice, bre.

30og moze :D

Resurrection · Post by **Resurrection** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 6:46 pm

Pratim, pratim, ali demokracijski cemo odluciti

Ako svima bude svejedno ondak ce da bude nedelja.
Iskreno svaki put dosad je bilo nedeljom, a ti si se pojavio 2 puta tako da mi nista ne garantuje da ces se ovog puta pojaviti sve i da bude nedelja.

Resurrection · Post by **Resurrection** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 10:21 am

Blood Shadowed Court

It seems as if the rumors of the next VtES product are true (or at least an elaborate prank). The next product (remark that I do not say "expansion") is called "Blood Shadowed Court" and is a reprint of the 100 Camarilla Edition vampires (way back from 2000) into a single collectors deck. The product is scheduled for April 2008 for a price of about 10€.

"The Camarilla court is a dangerous place to do business. Take care how you handle these regal fiends. Royalty does not preclude savagery."

Ako nista drugo bice u dovoljno velikoj konzervi za dek sa gacama:)

Post by **Hypodermic** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 1:49 pm

Da, a nekima ce camarilla vampiri jos i koristiti :D

Resurrection · Post by **Resurrection** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 2:04 am

The reprint is likely to consist of the 100 CE vampires which belong to Group 3 (those which were "booster-only" in CE). This would prepare the release of the next VtES expansion which will likely contain Group 4/5 Camarilla vampires. On the other hand this would mean, no reprint of any "Dark Sovereigns" or "Ancient Hearts" vampires including the "Inner Circle Members". The list of reprinted cards then looks like this:

* Brujah: Arnold Simpson, Gengis, Mazz, Allison Maller, Tayshawn Kearns, Marlena, Steve Booth, Pug Jackson, Sir Ralph Hamilton, Jeremy MacNeil, Joshua Tarnopolski, Maxwell, Tyler, Jaroslav Pascek, Menele
* Malkavian: David Morgan, The Scourge, Milo, The Invisible Horror, Adelaide Davis, Evan Klein, Persia, The Beautiful Statue, Dr. Douglas Netchurch, Ruth McGinley, Tony, Quentin King III, J. Oswald "Ozzy" Hyde-White, Jason, The World's Voice, Maris Streck, William Biltmore, Esau, Rachel Brandywine
* Nosferatu: Krid, Mouse, Darva Felispa, Wolfgang, Amelia, The Blood Red Tears, Gemini, Alonzo Guillen, Gerard Rafin, Jara Drory, Kurt Densch, Tammy Walenski, Casino ReedsEllison Humboldt, Khalid, Cock Robin
* Toreador: Emerson Wilkershire III, Yvette, The Hopeless, Sir Henry Johnson, Barth, Edith Blount, Enid Blount, Antoinette, She Who Watches, Ira Rivers, Lucina, Suzanne Kadim, Fleurdumal, Annabelle Triabell, Joaquin Murietta, Helena, Madame Guil
* Tremere: Almiro Suarez, Ehrich Weiss, Masika St. John, Pieter van Dorn, Alejandro Aguirre, Cohn Rose, Eugenio Estevez, Valois Sang, The Watcher, Carna, The Princess Witch, Virstania, The Great Mother, Anastasz di Zagreb, Erichtho, Lille Haake, Oliver Thrace, Lucas Halton
* Ventrue: Diana Vick, Lana Butcher, Earl, Elena Gutierrez, Catherine du Bois, Ilyana Ravidovich, Alan Sovereign, Edward Vignes, Gracis Nostinus, Horatio Ballard, Hrothulf, Katarina Kornfeld, Victorine Lafourcade, Lucinde, Alastor, Marcus Vitel
* Sabbat: Uncle George, Creamy Jade, Kyoko Shinsegawa, Rose, The, Alfred Benezri, Edward Neally, Tobias Smith, Antonio Veradas, Sebastian Goulet, Julio Martinez

Resurrection · Post by **Resurrection** » Sun Dec 23, 2007 3:23 pm

E vako:
Turnir ce da bude u nedelju (kad bude metnuta odgovarajuca tema na to mesto smatrajte potvrdjenim)

Za sad ce valjda da ucestvuju:

1. Boca
2. Damjan
3. Krle
4. Ivan
5. Milos
6. Mirko
7. Sutic
8. Nikica
9. Bojan
10. Bjelajac
11. Goksi
12. Pera
13. Nikola

Post by **Hypodermic** » Sun Dec 23, 2007 9:58 pm

99% dolazim (znacu da li je 100% ako mi neko ne slomi nogu u subotu ili tako neka glupost). Ivana cu da vidim da odbedim od treninga, pa da dodje i on :D

Resurrection · Post by **Resurrection** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 1:14 am

Nekaki rumori o novijem edicijama:

* April 2008: "Blood Shadowed Court" -- 100 card collector's set of Camarilla Edition vampires (reprints).
* May 2008: "Twilight Rebellion" -- 60(?) card mini-expansion (boosters only) featuring the Anarchs(?).
* Q3/Q4 2004: (Camarilla set) -- full expansion with new Camarilla G4/G5 vampires.

Resurrection · Post by **Resurrection** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:17 pm

http://white-wolf.com/vtes/index.php?li ... icleid=880

VTES: Twilight Rebellion Booster Pack and Display(tm)
Tentative release date on May 31st.

Nothing is safe!

The Anarchs seek to disrupt the resurgence of the Sabbat and
Independents. It's all on the line and the Anarchs have nothing to
lose. This is a booster-only VTES expansion with 60 brand new cards,
supporting the Anarchs game mechanic.

VTES Twilight Rebellion Booster Display:
Stock #: WWP02788
ISBN: X978-158846-496-5
Retail Price: $107.64 US
Contents: Contents: 36 booster packs.

Details about the VTES: Twilight Rebellion Launch Kit will be
available soon.
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Jej! Anarsi. Mozda konacno postanu korisni

Resurrection · Post by **Resurrection** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:45 am

Resurrection · Post by **Resurrection** » Fri Feb 08, 2008 2:23 pm

Chuck, Texas VtES Player

* Chuck can oust you simply by standing near you!
* Chuck can oust you even when you aren't playing VtES!
* Chuck doesn't tap cards, he stares at them and the table rotates 90 degrees.
* Chuck doesn't play reaction cards, Chuck doesn't react, he knows what you are going to do before you do it (often because he told you to do it the turn before).
* Chuck doesn't block actions, his minions merely wait for for the actors give themselves up.
* Chuck can 'oust prey' as an unblockable action. He just never needs to use it.
* If you have five pool and Chuck has five pool, Chuck has more pool than you.
* Chuck can oust 2 Methuselah's with one bleed.
* When Chuck is reduced to 0 pool, Chuck is not ousted. The only thing that can oust Chuck is Chuck.
* Chuck doesn't sweep tables, he just ousts one methuselah and the other four faint.
* Chuck can play "Game of Malkav" and select 10 pool.
* Chuck has no predator as he is nobody's prey. Chuck's prey is every VtES player present, including judges and their children.
* Chuck's bleeds cannot be bounced or blocked. They can only be accepted square in the face followed promptly by a "Thank you, Chuck".
* If, by some incredible space-time paradox, Chuck would ever play against himself, he'd win. Period.
* When playing cards Chuck doesn't pay attention to Errata. Cards do whatever Chuck says they to do.
* When time runs out in a game with Chuck there is no draw. Chuck gets 5 VPs just for being merciful and allowing you to live that long.
* When Chuck is out of cards he doesn't withdraw from the game, he advances the game.
* If you find yourself ousted in a game of VtES, you are obviously not Chuck.
* A brown bear once tried to Revelation's Chuck's hand. At the shear horror of what he saw he turned white out of fear. Chuck then ousted him so hard he landed at the north pole. Hence the polar bear came to be.

Post by **Hypodermic** » Fri Feb 08, 2008 5:14 pm

A! Omg! Ali ovo zadnje za bele medvede je najbolje :D

Resurrection · Post by **Resurrection** » Wed Feb 27, 2008 3:45 pm

Slike nekih od novih promo karata:
http://dnn.vtes.net/Portals/17/Gallery/ ... os2008.jpg

Resurrection · Post by **Resurrection** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 1:22 pm

Post by **Hypodermic** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:42 pm

Seti me da vise nikad ne kritikujem izrode magije sto su plagijati...