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Da li ima interesenata za put u Zagreb?
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Ja na Agram turnire ne idem dok ne olade malo sa tim Army Compositionom...
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Ja idem :D
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Gorbash wrote:Ja na Agram turnire ne idem dok ne olade malo sa tim Army Compositionom...
A ovamo kukas na specijalne karaktere - odluci se ili ces composition sa svim mogucim restrikcijama ili ces "open range"... :lol:
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Gorbash wrote:Ja na Agram turnire ne idem dok ne olade malo sa tim Army Compositionom...
Sto? Meni se to kao ideja svijda. koliko je sada dobro osmisljeno to je pitanje za debatu, ali definitivno unosi malo ekstra zezanja upravljenje army listi.
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Ma vazi. Dozvoljen je Daemonic Legion, a oni prave paniku oko izvodjenja 2 rare slota... :roll: Tj. nemoguce je izvesti 2 treemana...
A ovamo kukas na specijalne karaktere - odluci se ili ces composition sa svim mogucim restrikcijama ili ces "open range"...
Ja bih samo da igram turnire kakvi su bili pre ovog...
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Ja sam bas zaintresovan!!!!

Suticu jer ides ti?
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Gorbash wrote:Ma vazi. Dozvoljen je Daemonic Legion, a oni prave paniku oko izvodjenja 2 rare slota...
O ekspertu, koliko si puta igrao protiv demonske legije? Objasni mi sta je toliki problem sa tom vojskom? I ona je ugazena penalima za magiju/letace/skirmisher-e itd...
...Tj. nemoguce je izvesti 2 treemana...
I dva tenka, i 4 boltera, i dva doom diver-a - pa sta? Imas i neke druge stvari u tim rare slotovima - a ko te zapravo tera da popunis rare slotove uopste?
Ja bih samo da igram turnire kakvi su bili pre ovog...
I da se ponovo gleda kako na prva tri stola igraju Haos, Pacovi i Bretonci? Nisi bio na turniru te nisi video koliko je bilo neizvesnosti - pobednik se zaista nije znao do kraja poslednje partije... Ne secam se da se to ranije desilo...
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Sto nema veze sa army kompom. ima veze sa nacinom bodovanja po kome veoma tresko ostvarujes masakre, po kome je svaki poen vazan, i po kome mozes da izgubis i lorda, a da odigras 12-8... a nema veze sa restrikcijama i specijalnim karakterima.

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Heck, svaki karakter protiv mene mora da prodje lidersip, specijalan ili ne. 8) :wink:
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bojan wrote:
Gorbash wrote:Ma vazi. Dozvoljen je Daemonic Legion, a oni prave paniku oko izvodjenja 2 rare slota...
O ekspertu, koliko si puta igrao protiv demonske legije? Objasni mi sta je toliki problem sa tom vojskom? I ona je ugazena penalima za magiju/letace/skirmisher-e itd...
Dovoljno puta da znam da me nervira cinjenica sto protiv njih nemam ward, a oni imaju... I sto svi imaju Ld9. Ali ono sto me najvise nervira je sto su sve ostale liste iz SoCa zabranjene sem te.

Poenta je sto ja necu da igram na turniru koji ce da mi odredjuje kakvu vojsku da vodim. Ako se meni igra sa 3 altera, 30 archera i 2 treemana, hocu tako da igram, ne da moram da promenim pola liste (i samim tim kupujem/bojim jos figura).
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Gorbash wrote:Dovoljno puta da znam da me nervira cinjenica sto protiv njih nemam ward, a oni imaju... I sto svi imaju Ld9.
Ovaj pa nemas ward ni protiv pola bretonije a oni imaju... Da li je to tendencija da kukas na sve sto tvoju vojskicu maltretire? :roll:
Ld 9 imaju i patuljci.
Undead-i i ne bacaju Ld.
Sve same izbagovane vojske... :roll:
Ali ono sto me najvise nervira je sto su sve ostale liste iz SoCa zabranjene sem te.
Ne znam u Hr. ovde su sve bile dozvoljene - i vidis osim Nurgle DL (sa jednim magom 1.level-a i brzinom kretanja kisne gliste), niko nije doneo nijednu od njih... Pa ti vidi...

Poenta je sto ja necu da igram na turniru koji ce da mi odredjuje kakvu vojsku da vodim. Ako se meni igra sa 3 altera, 30 archera i 2 treemana, hocu tako da igram, ne da moram da promenim pola liste (i samim tim kupujem/bojim jos figura).
KO, ali onda nemas pravo kukati na specijalne karaktere, tenkove, topove, Tzeench-a, Bretonce i gunline... Hoce i oni da se igraju sa takvom listom... :roll:
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Idem ja a sto se tice ono A.C.-a to samo pravi razliku izmedju bogatih i siromasnih manckina :twisted:
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Ovaj pa nemas ward ni protiv pola bretonije a oni imaju... Da li je to tendencija da kukas na sve sto tvoju vojskicu maltretire?
Pa dobro pola, ali ovi bre svi imaju magicne napade! I ne samo to, nego i moji magicni napadi bi trebalo da rade na njihov save, ali gle cuda - imaju regularan ward save! Cak i kad ih dobijes u CC, dobre su sanse da ostanu. Ld9, daemonic herald...
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Megabaja wrote:...ima veze sa nacinom bodovanja po kome veoma tresko ostvarujes masakre, po kome je svaki poen vazan, i po kome mozes da izgubis i lorda, a da odigras 12-8...
Bio je isti sistem i predhodne dve godine pa su razlike bile mnogo drasticnije...
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Heck, svaki karakter protiv mene mora da prodje lidersip, specijalan ili ne. 8) :wink:
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A da niste vi malo skrenuli sa teme, a?

Znaci pitanje je bilo ko hoce da ide, a ne zasto neko nece.... i ja imam svoje razloge zasto necu ici pa ne gusim okolo istim...
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I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Drzimo se teme ljudi!
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A kad je to cudo ako nije proslo..... :D
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Zulufic wrote:A kad je to cudo ako nije proslo..... :D
Poštovani igrači, minijaturisti i maketari !

Vrijeme je za najavu Agram Arene Winter (2007.) koja ove godine navršava svoj peti rođendan !

Uz standardni međunarodni WHFB turnir, ove godine održat će se i prvo (zimsko) međunarodno natjecanje u bojanju minijatura pod nazivom Grička Vještica (Witch of Grič) !

AAW održavat će se 15-16.12.2007., kao i prošlogodišnja, u SKUC "Pauk" (u studentskom domu "Stjepan Radić"), Jarunska cesta 2!
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Kako u ovom trenutku još čekamo odgovor sponzora možemo vam reći da će smještaj za subotu (noć 15/16) biti ili besplatan ili će se naplaćivati po povoljnih 75 Kuna. Potvrdu jedne od tih dviju opcija očekujte početkom prosinca.

Igrat će se s vojskama od max 2250 bodova !

Sve minijature moraju biti obojane !

Max. broj sudionika : 80 !

Više detalja kao i cjelokupna pravila nalaze se na našim stranicama http://www.ums-agram.hr

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ja imam problemcic, ne mogu da sastavim vojsku bez -7 penala, pa ako ima nekoga ko moze da je sastavi, te da mi je za turnir pozajmi, ucinice mi uslugu...
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Moja Bretonija ima sest penala, sto sam friendlyyyyyyy.... :twisted: Opraces svakog na turniru osim Nurglove legije koja je po ovim pravilima potpuni bag.
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Voleo bih da odem ali nemogu :?
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mladjano bugarce wrote:Moja Bretonija ima sest penala, sto sam friendlyyyyyyy.... :twisted: Opraces svakog na turniru osim Nurglove legije koja je po ovim pravilima potpuni bag.
To su te frustracije - ova lista me je pobedila, i ja ne umem da je outmanevrisem, i onda cu je zabraniti, jer je bug, posto ja, najbolji general na svetu, ne umem da je pobedim... :roll:

edit: siguran sam da ima jos "lepih" primera friendly listi....
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Pa realno, s obzirom da su pucanje i magije tako zestoko penalizovani, slazem se da je nurgle DL favorit. I to tezak. Eventualno jedina lista koja ima potencijal da je prebije (posto je napucati ne mozes zbog penala) je Khorne DL. (fight fire with fire!!!!) :twisted: :twisted:
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A sta mislite o fighty Lizardmenima tipa 2*3 kroxija,3 salamandera,stegadon 2*saurusi od 16,2*10 skinkova,3 karaktera koja biju 3 teradona?
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I...ko na kraju ide iz Begesha u Zagreb?
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Idemo Luka Pacovcina, Kirgan, Dule i ja. A ko od vas Sadista ide?
Pravo da ti kazem, mnogo me nervira ovaj njihov kompozisn, i ozbiljno smo razmisljali da ne idemo iz tih razloga...

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Nikolicu, sto ti ne ides ove godine?
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Od Novosadista idemo Andrija,Suzic i ja.
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a ostali?
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A ostali zaostali :wink: .

Inache,ja mislim da je ideja ACa dobra,poshto tje svi morati da igraju sa hedikepiranim listama (osim nekih DL listi) i tu tje do izrazaja dotji tvoje generalske sposobnost (jel' tako Luka). :wink:
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je li? :D
a koliko penala ima tvoja bretonija, nula? :lol:
a ne verujem da ce se nesto mnogo razlikovati od proslogodisnje...
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-2

Razlikuje se jako malo.Nemam 3. fajterskog heroja,vetj 2 jedinice jomena i petog pegaza.

1 Bretonnian Lord @ 422 Pts
General; Lance; Morningstar; Shield; Knightly Vow
Virtue of Knightly Temper (1st) [40]
Tress of Isoulde [20]
Cuirass of Fortune [20]
Mantle of Damsel Elena [20]

1 Hippogryph @ [200] Pts
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1 Paladin Battle Standard Bearer @ 124 Pts
Heavy Armour; Battle Standard Bearer; Knightly Vow
Gromril Great Helm [30]
Sword of Might [20]

1 Warhorse @ [0] Pts
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1 Damsel of the Lady @ 130 Pts
Magic Level 1
Dispel Scroll [25]
Dispel Scroll [25]

1 Warhorse @ [0] Pts
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8 Grail Knights @ 384 Pts
Lance; Heavy Armour; Shield; Standard; Musician; Barding; Grail Vow
Valorous Standard [50]

4 Pegasus Knights @ 305 Pts
Lance; Heavy Armour; Shield; Standard; Musician; Knightly Vow

1 Gallant @ [55] Pts
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11 Knights Errant @ 281 Pts
Lance; Heavy Armour; Shield; Standard; Musician; Barding; Knightly Vow
Errantry Banner [20]

1 Cavalier @ [20] Pts
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7 Knights of the Realm @ 241 Pts
Lance; Heavy Armour; Shield; Standard; Musician; Barding; Knightly Vow
War Banner [25]

1 Gallant @ [24] Pts
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10 Peasant Bowmen Skirmishers @ 70 Pts
Longbow
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15 Peasant Bowmen @ 100 Pts
Longbow; Standard
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5 Mounted Yeomen @ 96 Pts
Spear; Bow; Standard; Musician; Fast Cavalry
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5 Mounted Yeomen @ 96 Pts
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Casting Pool: 3

Dispel Pool: 3

Models in Army: 72


Total Army Cost: 2249
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Njihov ac je jako los jer samo podize (ili spusta) powerlisting na drugi nivo... Moje predvidjanje je, da sem u ekstremnim slucajevima, najbolje ce proci DL, Bretonija, Vampir i eventualno neki haotic... Ostali su ...mnjeh...
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Odobrise mi listu sad sredjujem figure a aj da se dogovorimo oko puta ok 8) :twisted:
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Momci, samo nemojte zaboraviti se prijaviti, jer su prijave do sutra.

A kaj se tiče AC-a, i mi smo svijesni da AC nije savršen, i da zakida neke vojske više, dok druge manje. Ali kad pogledate i vani po svijetu, nijedan AC ne može izravnati sve vojske da budu na istom nivou. Razmišljali smo čak da idemo penalizirati stvari kod svake vojske zasebno, ali bojimo se da bi kod toga došlo do još većih problema jer nitko ne može za svaku vojsku reći koja je "normalna" jačina.
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Pa AC ima gresku ti ljudi su testirali sve te liste i armije pa obajvili cak i one preterane a AC je daleko od testa ali ume da ubije flaf i da te natera da napravis jacu kombinaciju od toga vajde nema ali ok ispostovah to ja licno mislim da sve treba dozvoliti 8) :twisted:
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A dobro, sad se možemo natezati tu cijelu godinu da li AC valja ili ne, ali hoću samo reći da smo sa AC-om krenuli s ciljem da se partije svedu na prijateljsko druženje i zabavu, a ne na to tko će složiti veću pedericu od liste. ;-)

I još, provjerite na ovom linku da li ste prijavljeni na turniru. Ne znam koliko se često ta lista update-a, ali trebalo bi barem jednom dnevno:

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Post by Megabaja »

prijavicemo se do sutra uvece...
Pamti, pa vrati...

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Pendargon wrote:Njihov ac je jako los jer samo podize (ili spusta) powerlisting na drugi nivo... Moje predvidjanje je, da sem u ekstremnim slucajevima, najbolje ce proci DL, Bretonija, Vampir i eventualno neki haotic... Ostali su ...mnjeh...
Bolje da te prebije Bretonija nego da ti ispucaju patuljci, cinchovci.... :wink:
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Ljudi,ajd' napravimo timske majce mi iz Srbiju dok josh nije kasno!
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Bolje da te prebije Bretonija nego da ti ispucaju patuljci, cinchovci.... Wink
Ne, nije...
Samo je razlika u tome sto ljudi imaju osecaj (najcesce lazan), da ako udju u hth "ipak mogu nesto da urade", sto protiv dobro sastavljene hth armije skoro NIKADA nije slucaj (osim kada je neka gomila keceva ukljucena u pricu, a tada ti nisu bitni ni cinc ni patuljci)
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