Shall we now use this thread to detail league battle reports?
Non-League Battle Report 28/01/2008 Menoth vs Trollbloods
The 'Protectorate' SO GOT THEIR PIOUS ASSES WHOOPED that now they worship me!! The Choir was a-wailin' rather then a-prayin', Severus decided to accessorize his armour with a 2 meter spear rammed through the centre of it and the Holy Zealots joined the dinosaurs and the dodo on the extinct list.
(Wow, it's just like reading the objective reports you read in No Quarter )
Yeah I forgot to mention that the new version is online now... it has both EN and SER version now.
As for battle report...
Batlle started good for me, even if I didn't know any of those we-are-horde-we-are-new-we-need-to-be-sold-so-we-are-uber trollblood rules.
During 1 turn I made a mistake as I didn't know rules for Devout.... I thought it can move its SPD to come in 2" of Severius and then intercept ranged attack... well, I was wrong... he needs to be in 2" so that it can move its SPD to intercept the attack. And because of that mistake Severius died, and that's about it.... if he had lived, thing would be much different
As for zealots, I've sent them to bomb up some troll unit, but I forgot their special rule: we-are-horde-we-are-new-we-need-to-be-sold-so-we-are-uber... translation: I didn't knew every model in that unit has 8 wounds... I thought they have only 1 as my units do .
All in all: our fires are going to burn stronger now .... I've bought new warcaster now... we'll see how they will throw their spears and axes when they are knocked down
I've also played against Orboros yesterday.... holly molly... they have that stupid combination: one beast knocks you down, and the hound howls at you and then you can't move nor fight.... so my avatar spent his days standing up :?
But as I said, we'll see how will it go with knock-down-guy around.
Severius is great warcaster, but he is usable only against other warmachine armies... I beleive knock-down-guy would be much better against horde. For example... he can cast imunity to spells on all jacks, then choir sings immunity to ranged attacks, and then I can be knocked down, but when I stand up I can fight...
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.
Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.
And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.
Actually, after reading the rules again I think that Rick couldn`t kill your caster since Madrak`s axe requires for second model shot to be within 4 inches of first model hit and also to be within Madrak`s LOS.
mladjano bugarce wrote:Actually, after reading the rules again I think that Rick couldn`t kill your caster since Madrak`s axe requires for second model shot to be within 4 inches of first model hit and also to be within Madrak`s LOS.
So, you are saying that he is a CHEATER :lol:
edit: Althou I will forget him... he didn't knew how to win, so when everything else failed, he used last resort :lol: :lol:
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.
Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.
And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.
Actually, after reading the rules again I think that Rick couldn`t kill your caster since Madrak`s axe requires for second model shot to be within 4 inches of first model hit and also to be within Madrak`s LOS.
He was within 4" and I could see him, the devout wasn't screening.
BUT to refer to the very long way of saying 'a case of sour grapes' posted by Mr. Vejn - this is why we practice. The day before (following bad internet advice) I went for the Warcaster kill as my one and only tactic. Shunka's khador made mincemeat out of me. The warcaster kill is really tempting as it basically powers down all your warjacks but you can only do it if the opprtunity arises. Your avatar hvy warjack did take 3 rounds to deal with Alten Ashley - who was little more than a mosquito to any of your army. If it had engaged my impalers I couldn't have killed Scrutator and I would have had to back them up with Madrak. You could have left AA until much later.
As for;
As for zealots, I've sent them to bomb up some troll unit, but I forgot their special rule: we-are-horde-we-are-new-we-need-to-be-sold-so-we-are-uber... translation: I didn't knew every model in that unit has 8 wounds... I thought they have only 1 as my units do .
John, you like the Guardian jack. Kreoss gives him the immunity to spells, the choir gives him immunity to shooting, he has his own defense from damage, so you have a pretty nasty arc node heavy jack. Bring him in position,use Kreoss's feat and then torch the enemy caster with a couple of boosted immolations.
Kreoss is much better than the old man Sevvy, he's one of the best casters in the game. Unfortunately he's a bit ''cheesy'' because of his feat and the redeemers/deliverers combo (knock down everything, shoot'em up from afar-dead caster ).
I think he couldn't have seen him, because Severius was behind the forest looking from you warcaster's point of view.
You shooted at Severius with troll that has spear fully legal (he had clear line of sight to him).
All in all, it was great game, I've learned a lot of new rules and that's what matters
I'm always learning rules while playing, as I don't have enough nerves left to read every book 10 times, just to be able to win every game I play
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.
Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.
And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.
Last night, Rick and I palyed one small Trollblood battle, and here's the report...
I was playing with warpack (Madrak, Axer, 2 Impalers). Rick was playing with Doomshaper, Dire troll and one unit of TrollBlood Champions. Simply put, I lost. My Axer died in vain because he charged (under the effect of rush animus), but when he ended his movement, he still was not in melee range. Basicly, I moved him in front of the dire troll and Doomshaper - and said: "Come on, beat me to death!" This was my biggest mistake. To be honest, I expected Dire troll to hit me hard, but to my surprise, it's the Doomshaper who annihilated my Axer (he hit me for 16 or more, I don't remember)!!! Later on, I had a great opportunity to shoot with the Impalers and Madrak on Doomshaper, but they all missed... I managed to hit Doomshaper very hard with Madrak's thrown axe (17 damage), but he transfered the damage to Dire troll (and even my ricochet ability allowed me to shoot again, big troll ended up with two wounds). Anyway, then the champs came, Doomshaper popped his feat, and my warlock died.
Now, just to say a few things about "we're horde and need to be sold" problem. It is just not true. US players were confused at the beggining, but they learned how to play against the Hordes factions. Mechanics are slightly different, but if you read the forums, or "No Quarter" magazine, you'll notice that only Warmachine players win tournaments. On US nationals, of four top players, the guy who won 1st place played Menoth - other three played Khador, Khador and Circle (only one Hordes faction). The dominating armies are Cryx and Menoth - it seems like everyone plays them. Personally I think that everything can be beaten... by everything. There are lists that play well against some other lists, and it' normal. But I expect everyone, even me, to look at their league opponent at one moment and say: "That's sooo broooken!!!!"
Doomshaper - heavy weight melee monster or old dude with a stick?
With his staff he can unkeep Fortune on Dire Troll (or himself) indefinitely and his strength at full fury is 13 (16 if you use the Dire Trolls animus). That's a POW 20 hit!! and that aint to be sniffed at.
I think he's best used as a 2nd Warcaster though. He does need to be screened at all times by a big beastie and his spells are only so-so against Hordes and poor against WM, though I think accursed would work so well on an Axer. It can move but not do anything (and you showed how well that worked Painbringer ) or just sit there stewing in his own juices while the fight goes on around him.
At 54 points he's a definite bargain.
For the record
My Axer died in vain because he charged (under the effect of rush animus), but when he ended his movement, he still was not in melee range. Basicly, I moved him in front of the dire troll and Doomshaper - and said: "Come on, beat me to death!"
I believe your charge actually did reach the Dire Troll Mauler but you rolled 4 on 3 dice doing 2 points of damage (which I regenerated next round and thanked you kindly for the fury). I remember this as you lamented that you name was Painbringer and you were yet to bring any real pain (which became the theme for the evening really). :D
Last edited by FGSerbia on Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:54 pm, edited 1 time in total.
^Yup, that's correct. I made a mistake. That was definitely a theme for the evening! Anyway, I had a lot of fun, I learned a lot from this battle and I can't wait to play another!!!
But still... that Doomshaper gives me creeps...
Do you know that Impaler have Reach?... Because of that it is better to put animus on him and charge.. . It'll do slight less damage but it'll be able to reach something, if you re not sure whether you have enough movement to hit...
Obzirom da je u Hordama uvek dozvoljeno merenje Coltrol erije vorloka a da bi warbeast mogao da se forsuje mora ostati u istoj razdaljina nije problem jednostavno izmeris.
xclub wrote:Do you know that Impaler have Reach?... Because of that it is better to put animus on him and charge.. . It'll do slight less damage but it'll be able to reach something, if you re not sure whether you have enough movement to hit...
Advice from a guy who's trollblods got their teal asses handed to them several times by a teeange girl on helium. :D
With Imperial March in background, many tons of Menoth's heavy metal prepares for opening of the league... Our fires are going to cleanse the blasphemous Skorne mutants...
Ever seen 4-legged hound? If you say you do, you risk to be cleansed yourself!
Menoth Scouts are announcing that on thursday, 31.1.2008, 17:00, they are booking battlefield in fantasy games store, thus opening the league! May the winner of the league be the purest one!
Until we cleanse the scourge!!!
Errmmm... fever starts going off....
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.
Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.
And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.
Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.
And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.
I u prvom pohodu krstasa pobedili smo sa 8:2, odnosno 7:1 (ne znam sta smo ustanovili sa ligaske partije - da li se racuna 1 poen za pola unit-a ili ne?)
Partija je pocela taktiziranjem i u prva dva poteza je umro 1 bombas i 1 neki solo koji se setao po sumi.
U 3. potezu ja pravim gresku ne znajuci da mozes da trcis kroz difficult ground i ostavljam bombase na milost i nemilost nekoj cetvorici debeljaka i unitu nekih pantera koji skakucu po sumi, oko nje, i usput popisavaju sve u X" :lol:. Vilmon je umro od neke magije, za koju sam ja mislio da nema domet.
Sve u svemu, piper je svojim vestim prstima i uzasnim glasom, otpevao neku pesmicu.... ko prezivi slusanje iste, postane veoma cvrst momak - i to je pomoglo malo da ziloti ne pomru ko muve.
U 4. krugu, prilazi Krezos, i kaze: ma dosta zeznja! Obori 4 debeljka, neke sutere, maga, dok su panteri samo podigli noge i popisali jos po jedno drvo. Rezultat toga je bilo ubijanje debelih momaka. Iskastujem ja sve protekcije na zealote.
U protivnikovom 4. potezu, aktivira se njegov feat koji omogucuva da se ubijeni modeli vrate sa 1. woundom sledeci krug. 200 napada na bombase - 0 mrtvih :lol: (sve, sve, samo da piper opet ne otpeva isto :lol:).
Moj peti, guardian odluci da je dosta zezanja. Osusi 2 kera uz pomoc bombasa. Medjutim isti se usled feata vrate u protivnickom petom, u kome neki debeli beast sa kljovama ucharguje guardiana (za koga u tom krugu saznam da mora da ima focus poen na sebi da bi radio retribution). Povredi on guardiana ali ne dovoljno.
Moj 6 krug, guardian kaze: vid, vid.... i istrese debelog beasta iz gaca. U jednom krugu ga je sam osusio.
U tom trenutku Skvo zove Sunku koji napusta partiju (racunali smo da bi u tom potezu sigurno ubio pola zilota, jer su sve moje ostale stvari bile ustekovane).
Finalni skor 7:1 punih, i po 1 jedinica na pola sa obe strane (za potencijalnih 8:2).
Zakljucci:
1. Drzati focus point na guardianu
2. Kreoss je mnogo laksi za igranje od Severiusa
3. Revenger + guardian mnogo bolje od revenger + avatar
4. Guardian mnogo bolji od avatara
5. Mozes da trcis kroz difficult ground
6. Zealoti ipak dobijaju +4/+4 kada sami sebe ubiju
7. Krezos-ov spell +2/+2 bolji od Severiusovog +4/+0 (jer radi i kad se pomeris)
edit: Sunka, ako se ne varam, trebali bi obojca da posaljemo rezultat na e-mail adresu FGS?
edit2: moja lista:
Krezos
Guardian
Revenger
Devout
Full unit of zealots with attachment
Full choir -1 acolyte
Piper
Vilmon
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.
Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.
And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.
Da, veliki zajeb sa moje strane - Makeda je trebalo da pozove Feat onog trenutka kada su moji vezali bombase u boj prsa u prsa.
Drugi zajeb - u sledecoj rundi Makeda je trebalo da baci Carnage i omoguci tigrojahacima da ubiju Isusa.
I posle toga jos par zajeba sa moje strane.
Moracu da naucim da igram sa Skornom.
Tj. moracu da naucim da igram ovu igru in general.
Dawngreeter wrote:ima i toga
rekurzivno glupilo
90% svega je sranje, a to ukljucuje i preostalih 10%
I think the popular ruling is that; You gain one point for destroying half or more of the unit and an extra point (so 2) for destroying the whole unit.
FGSerbia wrote:I think the popular ruling is that; You gain one point for destroying half or more of the unit and an extra point (so 2) for destroying the whole unit.
Errmmm.... don't you get full victory points for destroying full unit? For example zealots with monolith bearer cost 3 points....
edit: and thus, Shunka VS me: 2 points for Shunka, 8 points for me...
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.
Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.
And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.
Ja ovaj vikend opet preskacem, malo zbog farbanja, a malo zbog igranja u kucnoj varijanti.
Jos 10 figura i imam kompletno ofarbanu Menoth armiju
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.
Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.
And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.
Evo ja da pojasnim... DOlazimo Nikola (theserbianraven) (sa barem 500 poena MEnotha - neka on kaze koliko ce nositi ovde) i ja (xclub) (500 khador i verovatno 600 pt trollbloodova)
Spreman sam da igramo protiv svakoga ko je na listi za ligu (to je prednost u igri protiv mene) a naravno posto to obavimo, igracemo se druzeljubivog rata...
Ti si u vise liga sa vise razlicitih armija... sa Sunkom sa trollblodsima, a sa Bojanom sa Khadorom
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.
Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.
And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.
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