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Od juče imam 500 Cygnar poena pa bi hteo da čujem komentare iskusnijih igrača:

Lt. Alister Caine
Journeyman warcaster
Gun mage cpt. Adept
Stormsmiths x3
Sentinel L. Warjack
Centurion H. Warjack
Precursor knights
Gun mages

Prvu pojavljivanj na tabli najavljujem krajem marta kada i poslednje figure budu ofarbane.
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Post by Bathory »

Mozda malo mekana lista. Kad Centurion bude neutralisan (sto nije lako) a precursori vezani, pocece bezanija po terenu..... Konjica bi ti dobro dosla. Posto ostatak tvoje pesadije (osim prekursora) umire od promaje, sto ce reci cak i sketerovani templejt moze da ih ubije....
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I think it's a pretty interesting list. You're missing an arc node but Caine doesn't really mind that and his can teleport behind the shield wall if it's still standing.
How Precursor Knights are you fielding?
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Ovo sto je Moma rekao... Jako ti je mekana lista, ali mnogo. Samo pucanjem nikada neces pobediti, jer naleteces na menot i 2 hora, koji ce ti baciti jackove u lice. Ili all-stealth cryx. Ili windwall vladimira... itd. Moras da dodas nesto sto daje *umph*
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Stormsmiths x3

Svaki stormsit daje victory poene, a ima jednu jedinu ranu, i nije uopste tezak za ubiti. Njih trojica daju VP-a koliko centurion, a sve ih daju kad im padne pitica na glavu, cak i kada scateruje. Jedan je ok, tri mole da izgubis...[/quote]
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Da, ali zar nece stormsmithovi dobro doci da disruptuju bas te menotske jackove sa horom? Kolko znam, onaj njihov skill attack se ne racuna kao ranged?

Al sto jeste, aoe napadi ogu da naprave frku za ovu listu, narocito khadorski bombardi.
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Da, ali zar nece stormsmithovi dobro doci da disruptuju bas te menotske jackove sa horom? Kolko znam, onaj njihov skill attack se ne racuna kao ranged?
Aha...
I onda ti lagano disaptovani jackovi idu napred, dok delivereri/bombasi/ arcnod ne uzme svoja 3 victory poena na sirotim stormsmithima, nakon cega the fun begins... osim toga, nije bas da je range tih njihovih "psychic" napada mnogo veliki (mislim 10), a ne mozes da ga povecavas snipeom. Deliverer rocket na revengeru ima range 16... :twisted: :twisted:
You're missing an arc node
Ne treba ti node... Cain ima povecan range spelova zbog svog magelock pistolja, pa stoga ne pati preterano zbog nedostatka noda.
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Jeste, ali redeemer nema arcing fire. Nisu stormsmith losi, ako se zabiju negde gde ih niko ziv ne vidi, mada ako probaju da izdaju da urade triangulaciju padaju kao muve. A fino ce zeznuti i revengera/guardiana, jer mislim da menotovci nemaju offensive spell sa rng vecim od 10"
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Aman ljudi bre... svaka figura ima neku prednost i neku manu... Protiv necega ja dobra, protiv necega losa.

Shodno tome, pustite coveka da vodi sta mu se svidja.

Svakako da postoje neke liste koje su bolje od nekih drugih (matematicki), ali ne moraju svi da vode "najbolju" (matematicki) listu da bi se zabavili ;)

edit: a ja sam optimista, pa se nadam da ljudi igraju zabave radi, a ne pobede radi ;)...
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Post by mladjano bugarce »

Meni se lista svidja uz jednu sitnu isptavku. Sentinel ubija pesadiju sa malo oklopa. Obzirom da vodis Dzon Vejna koji cisti svu mogucu pesadiju bez problema mislim da je bolje da izostavis Sentinela a umesto njega ubacis Ajanu koja cini sve njegove napade magicnim i onda moze da puca na sve mete koje je Pendargon spominjao u svom postu + Holt koji fantasticno puca i komandu za vitezove koja ima daje izmedju ostalog i dodatnu kocku damagea jednom po partiji(ili ajris).
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Post by Duc d' Elchingen »

Ja sam krenuo sa modelima koji mi se sviđaju.
Pa da probam da vidim kako mi ide, e kada me nekoliko puta odvale ko mladog majmuna onda ću da se poboljšavam.
Za početak da uđem u štos.
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Post by Bathory »

Pa nece te niko bas 'odvaliti' posto je Caine tesko ubivljiv sa onom svojom magijom da 'nestane'. Ali, svi ce protiv tebe skorovati lake poene na stormsmitima, adeptu, journeymanu, gunmageovima. Opet mozes da igras na taktiku pucaj i bezi, a da ono malo close-combata ceka neku kontru, ali WM za razliku od warhammera ne podrzava shooty armije , tako da ces verovatno uvek ostati samo sa Cainom u nekom sumarku kako drhti....

Ali posto si se rukovodio izgledom figura, onda ok. :)

Za ojacavanje armije (po meni): konjica, stormbladeovi/guard, trencheri...
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Ja sam krenuo sa modelima koji mi se sviđaju.
Good man, stick to your guns no matter how much you get battered. :?
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You're missing an arc node

Ne treba ti node... Cain ima povecan range spelova zbog svog magelock pistolja, pa stoga ne pati preterano zbog nedostatka noda.
If you had added the next part of my sentence
but Caine doesn't really mind that
then you would have seen that I already knew this! Being taken out of context makes me pout!! :x
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hen you would have seen that I already knew this! Being taken out of context makes me pout!! Mad
Sorry Rick. We didn't understand each other. I thought you meant : "Caine doesn't mind that" in a way that he usually walks, then buys extra pistol attacks for his focus, then usually flashes away (in a word, he usually doesn't do much spellcasting except first turn snipe/ deadeye, and flash). But, in case that he Does actually feel like casting, he's got extended range...
That's all I meant, sorry if I offended you, i really didn't mean to...
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Post by Duc d' Elchingen »

Vezano za domet i da i ne.
Naime 1 Stomsmith ima domet 10" no međutim ako ih ima 2 ili 3 onda je to malo drugačije.
Ako između 2 Stormsmith-a ima 20" ili manje mogu da zveknu 2 modela koji seku bilo kakvu liniju povučenu između njih dvojce (ne striktno pravu liniju).
Ukoliko ih je trojca onda prave trougao i mogu po istom principu da napadnu 3 protivnička modela.
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znamo... ali bombard ima domet 14, i pravi fleke od malih stormsmita. Takodje, treba napomenuti da se u ovoj igri ponekad igraju scenariji, koji ce se koristiti na turniru u septembru. Sa taktikom :"sedim iza i pucam", nikada nemozes pobediti u scenariju kao sto je pendulum.
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Post by Duc d' Elchingen »

Do septembra ima 6 meseci a i nisam neki ljubitelj turnira. Igrao sam samo 1 WH turnir i to još dok je Oilverov klub bio u prostorijama DSS kod opštine Vračar.
I ko što rekoh sa ovim sam krenuo, videćemo kako funkcioniše pa u skladu sa tim ću menjati armiju.
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Pendargon wrote:znamo... ali bombard ima domet 14, i pravi fleke od malih stormsmita. Takodje, treba napomenuti da se u ovoj igri ponekad igraju scenariji, koji ce se koristiti na turniru u septembru. Sa taktikom :"sedim iza i pucam", nikada nemozes pobediti u scenariju kao sto je pendulum.
ali ga nishta ne sprechava da proba... ja mislim da je poenta igre da se igrash i isprobavash stvari koje mozhda samo tebi i imaju smisla... npr shto ne bi probao taktiku sa ad-razom, kreossom, 3 repentera i 4 revengera? probash par puta, vidish 'de shkripi, izbacish dva revengera i ubacish dva devouta... odigrash josh par puta, vidish da ima josh mesta za poboljshanje, izbacish jednog repentera i ubacish npr crusadera i vidish da ti to bash onako ide po meraku...

naravno, dodje neki powerhouse i rasturi te 20-0, al ti znash da ta tvoja lista ima smisla (donekle) i kazhesh "ok, ovo je bilo kul, ajd da probam neku drugu listu" i krenesh isti proces sa drugom postavkom...

to shto tje bombashi razbucati stormsmite ne znachi da je njegova lista losha, vetj da je manje bolja od "idealne" liste... shto se mene tiche, moja idealna lista bi bila kreos, ad-raza i pun K raznolikih jackova, ma kolko ona neuspeshna bila (a ja sve verujem da gde ima puno jackova tu ima malo neuspeha :D)

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